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Thursday, March 31, 2011

[India_Vision_2020] Re: Faulty anti-poor policy of SBI on Second education loan needs review

 

31 March 2011


The Chairman
State Bank of India
Mumbai

cc to :

Dr K C Chakrabarty, Deputy Governor, RBI
Mr S S Ramasubbu, Member of Parliament
Mr Hansraj, Member of Parliament
Mr T K Rangarajan, Member of Parliament
The members of India Vision Group for information
The members of Action 2020 Team for information


Dear Sir

We have earlier brought to your notice about the faulty and anti-poor policy of your bank, while considering the edu loan for the PG courses.  We have now received confirmation from your Chennai Local Head Office that your bank does not grant second loan to the students to pursue PG Courses, other than the professional courses. They need to close the first loan, to get the loan for PG Students. 

In the interest of the nation, brilliant and poor students can pursue higher education.  If SBI is demanding the closure of first education loan, to get the loan for PG Studies, how the poor students can go for higher education?  Will they not borrow at a higher interest in the market, to repay the loan, thereby defeating the very purpose of education loan scheme.  

Such policy will affect the poor and dalit  students enormously, who want to pursue PG Courses, after their graduation.  There are many brilliant poor students, who would be prevented to take up higher courses, due to your policy.  

We checked up with other banks and they do not have such policy.  Such blanket ban by a premier bank like SBI may work against the interest of poor and brilliant students.  It will also affect the Dalit students, who want to pursue higher education.    That is why, we consider your policy of granting second edu loan to PG students,  as a faulty and anti-poor, though you may deny it officially.  As a matter of clarification, we say that we are  talking about this policy only and not other credit policies.  

We know State Bank of India is doing well, under education loan scheme.  However, such policy of denying loans to poor students to pursue higher education goes against the interest of social objective.  Hence, we request you to kindly reconsider and rreview your policy.  Instead of blanket ban, you can consider second edu loan to poor students on their merit, to pursue higher education.  

We also endorse a copy of this mail to Deputy Governor of RBI and also to the Members of Parliament for their information and necessary action.  We are also circulating this message to our India Vision Members and Action 2020 members.

We request all to kindly go through the back correspondences from the bottom and share your views.

Srinivasan
Convenor
Convenor
Education Loan Task Force (ELTF)
Part of Action 2020 Team under India Vision Group
Join the India Vision group to get connected with like minded people
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:36 PM, RAMAKRISHNAN D <d.ramakrishnan@sbi.co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir,

 

SBI does not have any anti-poor policy and in fact we are in fore front always in helping the poor. We object to this heading and statement.

 

Our Educational Loan Scheme does not permit second loan to pursue higher studies in general courses but is given to all professional courses.

 

M.Sc(Agricultural Microbiology) was treated as a professional course and the loan was sanctioned to Shri S.Ramakrishnan by our Nilakottai Branch Manager after due consideration and in consultation.

 

Please note that our schemes are non-discretionary and non-discriminatory and all our branches are expected to follow the instructions meticulously.

 

 

D.Ramakrishnan,

Chief Manager,

Personal Banking Business Unit,

State Bank of India, Chennai LHO

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: Fwd: Faulty anti-poor policy of SBI on Second education loan needs review

dear ELTF members

I have since received a response from Chairman's Secrretariat of State Bank of India, forwarding our mail to local HO at Chennai.  They would clarify us further in the matter.

Mr Ramakrsihnan, the student who made the reference earlier called me last evening and said that SBI has now sanctioned the loan for his PG Studies.  It appears that the Branch Manager had told him that the bank has now changed the policy.

I am now awaiting the confirmation  from SBI that they have now changed the 'faulty anti-poor policy'.   

Srinivasan
91766 50273

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: agm2.pbpl <agm2.pbpl@sbi.co.in>
Date: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Faulty anti-poor policy of SBI on Second education loan needs review
To: action2020eltf@gmail.com
Cc: dgmpb.lhoche@sbi.co.in, d.ramakrishnan@sbi.co.in


Dear Sir,

We acknowledge receipt of your mail addressed to Chairman.  We have forwarded the same
to DGM(PB), Chennai who will look into the matter and advise you in this matter.

With regards,

DGM(PL)
PBBU, CC, MUMBAI

----- Original Message ----- From: <chairman@sbi.co.in>
To: <dgm.pbpl@sbi.co.in>; <agm2.pbpl@sbi.co.in>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: Fw: Faulty anti-poor policy of SBI on Second education loan needs review






----- Forwarded by CHAIRMAN STATE BANK OF INDIA/CORP/SBI/SBG on 03/25/2011
05:18 PM -----


 From:       Education Loan Task Force ELTF <action2020eltf@gmail.com>

 To:         Education Loan Task Force ELTF <action2020eltf@yahoogroups.com>, MP Ramasubbu Nella
            <ramasubbu@nellaimp.com>, SBI CGM Chennai <cgm.lhoche@sbi.co.in>, dgmpb.lhoche@sbi.co.in, SBI Edu Loan
            Ramakrishnan <d.ramakrishnan@sbi.co.in>

 Cc:         "Chairman, State Bank of India SBI" <chairman@sbi.co.in>, MP Hansraj <hansraj_ahir@rediffmail.com>, "MP T
            K Rangarajan`" <tkrcpim@gmail.com>, RBI CGM RPCD B P Vijayendra <bpvijayendra@rbi.org.in>, RBI Deputy
            Governor Dr K C Chakrabarty <kcchakrabarty@rbi.org.in>, Ramakrishnan Subbiah <ramksubbiah@yahoo.com>

 Date:       03/25/2011 03:35 PM


 Subject:    Faulty anti-poor policy of SBI on Second education loan needs review






The Chairman
State Bank of India
Mumbai

cc to : The Deputy Governor, RBI, Mumbai

dear all

Last month, we took up an issue with State Bank of India Management to
review their anti-poor and faulty policy of not providing education loan
for PG studies, other than professional courses. Officially, SBI informed
us they would consider sanctioning the loan for PG studies, only if the
earlier loan was sanctioned.

Such faulty policy would cause harm to the poor and brilliant students. We
took up the matter with the SBI Management, RBI and also with the MPs who
are supporting us.

The issue came up, when a student complained to us againt SBI, Nilakootai,
Tamilnadu branch that he was denied edu loan for pursuing PG Studies,
though he obtained excellent marks in the degree course.

SBI, Chennai Circle also confirmed to us in writing that they had such
policy. Immediately, we took up with everybody.

Now, we understand from the student that he got the loan from SBI. We are
not sure, whether SBI has sanctioned the loan, as a special case or have
changed their anti-poor policy.

While on the one side, we are happy that SBI has considered the loan for PG
course to the complaining student, we also appeal to them to review their
policy to support poor and intelligent students (if they had not already
done so). Please see the back correspondences below.

We would appreciate a confirmation from SBI that they have changed the
anti-poor policy.

Srinivasan
Convenor
Education Loan Task Force (ELTF)
Part of Action 2020 Team under India Vision Group
Join the India Vision group to get connected with like minded people
http://groups.yahoo.com/group
/India_Vision_2020/
Also visit www.indiavision2020.org and
http://action2020eltf.blogspot.com/





On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Education Loan Task Force ELTF <
action2020eltf@gmail.com> wrote:
 hi all

 We have now received a clarification from SBI that for availing second
 education loan, to pursue PG courses, other than professional courses,
 the student has to liquidate the first loan.

 Normally professional courses mean MBA type of courses. If a student
 completes B Tech (through edu loan with SBI) and wants to pursue M Tech
 or ME, then according to the rules of SBI and as understood by us based
 on the clarification, the student is not eligible for a second loan to
 pursue M Tech course.

 If he wants second loan, he has to liquidate the loan which he got for B
 Tech or wait for liquidation of loan in the normal course (say 7 years).
 Only because the student is poor, he avails the loan from the bank.
 Asking him to pay the entire mney at a stretch, will drive him to money
 lenders. This will defeat the very purpose of the Scheme.

 We feel that this will deprive many young poor brilliant students the
 opportunity of pursuing higher education, other than professional
 courses.

 On behalf of ELTF, we are requesting SBI Chairman ro review this
 anti-poor policy framed by them and make it open, without restricting to
 professional courses only. They can consider the second loan depending
 on the merit of individual cases for any approved courses.

 Srinivasan
 91766 50273
 Convenor
 Education Loan Task Force (ELTF)
 Part of Action 2020 Team under India Vision Group
 Join the India Vision group to get connected with like minded people
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group
 /India_Vision_2020/
 Also visit www.indiavision2020.org and
 http://action2020eltf.blogspot.com/



 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
 From: <dgmpb.lhoche@sbi.co.in>
 Date: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Complaint against SBI, Nilakkottai Branch and policy of SBI
 for PG Studies
 To: action2020eltf@gmail.com


 The Branch has followed the current instruction, which provide that the
 second loan may be sanctioned , if the first loan is liquidated.
 Regards,
 C.R.Cauvery
 DGM PBU
 CHENNAI

 -----Education Loan Task Force ELTF wrote: -----
 To: RBI CGM RPCD B P Vijayendra <bpvijayendra@rbi.org.in>, SBI CGM
 Chennai <cgm.lhoche@sbi.co.in>, SBI PS to GM <pstocgm.lhoche@sbi.co.in>,
 MP Ramasubbu Nella <ramasubbu@nellaimp.com>, MP Ramasubbu PS Issac <
 jamesisaaac@gmail.com>, dgmpb.lhoche@sbi.co.in, SBI Edu Loan Ramakrishnan
 <d.ramakrishnan@sbi.co.in>, "Chairman, State Bank of India SBI" <
 chairman@sbi.co.in>
 From: Education Loan Task Force ELTF <action2020eltf@gmail.com>
 Date: 02/05/2011 09:20AM
 cc: SBI Nilakkottai <sbi.00791@sbi.co.in>, Education Loan Task Force ELTF
 <action2020eltf@yahoogroups.com>

 Subject: Complaint against SBI, Nilakkottai Branch and policy of SBI for
 PG Studies

 4 Feb 2011

 To

 The Chief General Manager
 State Bank of India
 Chennai

 Dear Sir

 We forward herewith a complaint mail received from Ramakrishnan against
 your Nilakkottai Branch. Y0ur Branch has given in writing to the
 applicant, that they would provide second education loan only to pursue
 professional course in India or abroad and hence they rejected the
 application.

 While, we do not interfere with the decision of the banks, we want to
 ensure that the bank's follow the guidelines properly for the benefit of
 brilliant poor students. Hence, we request you to kindly examine this
 complaint at senior level and take a suitable decision, based on the
 individual merit of the applicant and as per your norms.

 More than this issue, we are seriously concerned over the SBI 's rule
 that the bank will not grant any second education loan to any other
 course, other than for professional courses in India or abroad. Since
 your policy is a matter of serious concern for the student community, we
 request you to kindly confirm that you will not grant any education loan
 for further studies other than for professional course. In such case,
 your policy is a faulty one and is against the interest of the poor
 students, who want to pursue higher education and take a loan, in other
 courses.

 We endorse a copy of this mail to the Chairman and to Mr Ramasubbu MP and
 to RBI for their information. It is very sad that SBI is following such
 unfriendly policy to the students. We request you to kindly review your
 second education loan policy, to support the deserving poor students.

 Srinivasan
 91766 50273
 Convenor
 Education Loan Task Force (ELTF)
 Part of Action 2020 Team under India Vision Group
 Join the India Vision group to get connected with like minded people
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group
 /India_Vision_2020/
 Also visit www.indiavision2020.org and
 http://action2020eltf.blogspot.com/

 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
 From: Ramakrishnan Subbiah <ramksubbiah@yahoo.com>
 Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:46 AM
 Subject: Bank loan
 To: Loan Query <action2020eltf@gmail.com>


Respected sir,
Sorry for the late reply. Here I submitted the answers for
all questions.
1.How much amount of loan, you got for your degree? What is
the
balance in your loan account, including interest?

Total sanctioned loan amount is Rs. 1, 16,000/- but I
received as per
my requirement only Rs. 96,000/-.

2.What is your grraduation? How much marks you got in your
degree?

BSc agriculture with 74.6% marks

3.Whether you had kept any arrears?

No

4.How much amount of loan, you have applied for education
loan for your MSc

Totally Rs. 88,600/- and Rs. 40,000/- (Approximately) for
laptop.

5.What are the documents, you have submitted to the bank?

. I submitted the following documents are,
1. My Father's Income certificate
2. Land Document copy
3. Jewel details
4. My college and Hostel Bonafide certificate and Fees
structure
5. Primary details asked from the bank.

6.What was the reason for rejection by the bank?

Second loan is only to persue a professional course in
india or abroad

7.Did you meet the regional manager and appealed to him? If
so, what
was the answer given by him.

No sir ,I met my branch manager and field officer. They told
that "we
are sent your request to Regional office Madurai. Then only
we will
sanction the Education loan for you". Finally I receive a
letter from
my Bank manager that is my Education loan was request was
rejected due
to my previous loan.



I'm not rude about this matter sir.just i informed about the
rejection.sorry sir








With Regards,


RAMA KRISHNAN, S


I M.Sc (Agricultural Microbiology)


Tamilnadu Agricultural University,


Coimbatore - 641003









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Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Re: [India_Vision_2020] Velicham Students .. Story of Poor Students and their success

 

Keep up the good work, Velicham Students.

Very few people in this world remember the support of other folks, in their success.
You have shown the world, that there are still good folks .

warm regards

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:24 AM, velicham.students <velicham.students@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear All,

We Velicham Students, as the name Velicham means bright light in Tamil. Our life was ignited by our sister Sherin. She picked us from market from lifting Weights, She made painter to Advocates, She made our dream come true...

Till now 515 of ours life has been ignited by Velicham's Mission.
Among us 86 are learning in the field of engineering, 11 learn medicine and many others in other field of their own interest. One of our students from Coimbatore is young student who is into Pilot Training Course.

Outcomers of our success stories are doing well in theri profession. 6 students are engineers, 36 students working are in Teaching profession, 22 students are advocates. Additionally, Velicham's first Student Senthil is working as Junior Scientist in Omen.

The above success stories were the outcome of Sherin, our sister, who has left her family for our studies.

Now, we students from Velicham have taken up this mission to provide education to all. We have also established students helpline 9698151515 to give an ear to younger generation's stress, which has helped us to save 167 from attending suicide.

We do expect your suggestion for betterment of our work and a helping hand to share the burden to uplift the downtrodden people of this country.

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[India_Vision_2020] Employee Communication - Unique ways

 

dear friends

Thanks for all those who shared their views on ;employee communication' in our survey for the next ezine.  Many of the respondents have mentioned about the internal magazines, intranet, etc.  as the best communication techniques adopted by their companies  

Nowadays, every small or big company have started distributing their own newsletters to their employees.  In that connection, in order to focus more on employee communication tools in our ezine, i want the following information, based on your experience.   You may kindly write to me personally and not to the group.

1. Generally, what is the response from the employees, when they receive such house magazines, newsletters from the management.  Do they read fully?  Is the purpose of the employee commnication served fully?  Please give your frank views.  You need not mention the names of the companies.  We do not intend to mention any names.  We want to discuss only the points,

2.  Some companies may practise very good strategies to bring employees closer, beyond newsletters and magazines.  Have you every found either in your or other organisations such good techniques.? If so, please share the information.  Also mention about how the companies maintain relationship with their past / retired employees? (something beyond regular official letters, newsletters, etc.)

Please do not respond to the group.  Please send your response only to me.

srinivasan
prime point
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[India_Vision_2020] Velicham Students .. Story of Poor Students and their success

 

Dear All,

We Velicham Students, as the name Velicham means bright light in Tamil. Our life was ignited by our sister Sherin. She picked us from market from lifting Weights, She made painter to Advocates, She made our dream come true...

Till now 515 of ours life has been ignited by Velicham's Mission.
Among us 86 are learning in the field of engineering, 11 learn medicine and many others in other field of their own interest. One of our students from Coimbatore is young student who is into Pilot Training Course.

Outcomers of our success stories are doing well in theri profession. 6 students are engineers, 36 students working are in Teaching profession, 22 students are advocates. Additionally, Velicham's first Student Senthil is working as Junior Scientist in Omen.

The above success stories were the outcome of Sherin, our sister, who has left her family for our studies.

Now, we students from Velicham have taken up this mission to provide education to all. We have also established students helpline 9698151515 to give an ear to younger generation's stress, which has helped us to save 167 from attending suicide.

We do expect your suggestion for betterment of our work and a helping hand to share the burden to uplift the downtrodden people of this country.

Yours truly,
Velicham Students.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011

[India_Vision_2020] Employee Communication - Your views needed urgently

 

dear all

I had circulated a link three days back to get your  views about the 'employee communication'.  We plan to publish our march ezine PreSense on this theme.  So far, we have received only 4 responses.  

I will be happy if you can share your views in the survey link.  Please also share some of the best practices  or even the bad practices you have observed.  Your views will be of great importance in making this ezine.  You can share your views without your identity also.

Please visit the link

Please give your views before wednesday.

srinivasan

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Sunday, March 13, 2011

[India_Vision_2020] 'Employee Communication' in March ezine PreSense - A snap survey

 

hi all

March 2011 issue of ezine PreSense will focus on 'Employee Communication'.  Employees in all the  organisations form part of important 'human assets'.  Be it a Public Sector or Private Sector, employees are the 'brand ambassadors' of those organisations.

Are we having good practices of 'employee communication' in our organisations? Or are we treating them as 'robots' for business purposes only?  These are all the questions, we want to discuss in our March issue.

Some of the organisations follow the 'best' employee communication practices to connect with their employees.  Also, some  companies in public and private sector, follow the 'worst' practices.  

In order to get a real perspective of this theme, we want you to share your views briefly in the snap survey, which may take around 3 minutes.  Since our ezine is circulated widely among the corporates, your views in the snap survey would be of great help to the other readers.  Please visit the following link to share your views.

We will close the survey on Wednesday the 16th March evening.  Please do not wait till the last date.  Please share your views immediately.

Srinivasan
Editor in Chief
PreSense

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Saturday, March 5, 2011

[India_Vision_2020] Re: An exclusive interview with Dr Subramanian Swamy on 'perseverance'

 

Myself a class 11th science student.I have read the quotes from the interview and I'm greatly inspired.Last day when I said to my father that I couldn't concentrate in my studies,he supported me by saying that-Make yourself a mind which would go on reminding you that you take risk not only for you, because it's result may change the life of others around you too...!!-and that's my father!!!! Hope that his words bring a little light in some of your hearts as it has done in me.So make a mind which keeps on saying that-Work hard for our INDIA...!!!!!

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Tuesday, March 1, 2011

[India_Vision_2020] Feb 2011 issue of ezine on "Achievers" - Diamond Jubilee edition [1 Attachment]

 
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dear friends

We are pleased to release the Diamond Jubilee  (60th) edition of your ezine PreSense with the theme 'Achievers'.  With this issue, we are completing 5 years of journey.  We have been publishing this ezine for the past 5 years without break, on one unique theme every month.   We thank all our readers for the support and encouragement.  This issue is dedicated to our readers.

In this edition, we are carrying an exclusive interview with Dr Subramanian Swamy, on the theme 'perseverance'.  Also, we are carrying an exclusive interview with Mr M Narendra, Chairman and Managing Director of Indian Overseas Bank.  Mr Narendra has given few tips to become successful in the career.

We are also carrying some excerpts from the speech of Mr Gopalakrishna Gandhi, Former Governor of West Bengal covering the greatness of our leaders.  Mr Gopalakrishna Gandhi's paternal grandfather is Mahatma Gandhi and maternal grandfather is Rajaji.  He is the grandson of two illustrious leaders of India.  

As you  know our cartoon character PRince created by Triambak sharma was launched by Dr Abdul Kalam in August 2008.  All along PRince was giving out messages in every issue in a humourous manner.  In between, PRince was seen with his girl friend also.  Now in this diamond jubilee issue, PRince got married to PRincess.  Our cartoon editor Triambak got both of them married.  From now on, both PRince and PRincess will continue the journey with us every month.

As usual, we have three podcasts integrated with this ezine.  Enjoy reading this ezine and give us your feedback.

We have attached this ezine to this mail.  This edition may also be downloaded from the following link:


Srinivasan
Editor in Chief
PreSense

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