Re: [India_Vision_2020] How to improve driving discipline? - It is all about Bangalore

Dear All,

Thanks a lot for sharing your points.

I saw the headlines and an another article in "Times of India" about poor infrastructure in Bangalore today. Accidentally, It happened to meet 2 traffic police while I was having tea at restaurant in the morning. I was casually talking to them about traffic problems in Bangalore and what we could do. Finally, they asked me to talk with Circle Inspector to do any co-work.

We have been thinking to make stickers like "I obey traffic rules and follow lane discipline" and keep at front side of every car, so that they can see this sticker every time and remind them self.

But it is good thought by Raja as well, we can keep on the back side of car, so that it can remind others, who are following that car and help other drivers to remind them as well.

We all know that making strict rules and punishment by govt along with good infrastructure would bring peaceful like like what we have seen in US and other developed countries. But it would take long time I guess. Is there anything we can do like filing more frequent RTI or meeting concerned departments regularly.

News about Poor Infrastructure in Bangalore in Times Of India Today

(1) Bangalore: Where is the petroleum cess going?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Bangalore/Bangalore_Where_is_the_petroleum_cess_going_/articleshow/3427068.cms

According to Bhushan Narang, president of Bharat Petroleum Dealers' association , Bangalore needs 600 tankers of fuel every day. Every tanker load has 12,000 litres which means Bangalore consumes 72 lakh litres every day. That also means Bangaloreans pay Rs 72 lakh per day as infrastructure cess or Rs 262.8 crore per year. Isn't it time the city ploughed back more revenue into improving roads?


(2) Bangalore's infrastructure, growth mismatch
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Bangalore/Bangalores_infrastructure_growth_mismatch/articleshow/3427074.cms

There is no coordination between civic bodies. Each works independent of the other. Rather, they keep blaming one another for the ills. The BBMP asphalts a road - usually a thin layer. Within days, the BWSSB digs it up to plug a leak or lay a new pipeline. Once the work is done, it doesn't care to patch up the stretch. BSNL follows suit. That's why we find perennial digging on our roads. Why can't these agencies work together?

A number of innovative ideas, proposed time and again by some bright minds, have remained on paper. For instance, whatever happened to the BBMP's tall claims about installing ducts to curb road-digging and ensure that all service providers use them to run their lines? Why is no follow-up action taken on such ideas?

Resident welfare associations are willing to act as watchdogs - be it in execution, planning or supervision of road projects. Their members are ready to physically inspect work and see that asphalting is done according to norms. But civic authorities are reluctant to empower them. Is the contractor-official lobby afraid that its corrupt ways will be exposed?


Regards
K.Ravi

 

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From: Navya Sree <lnavyasree20@yahoo.com>
To: India_Vision_2020@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:27:59 AM
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_2020] How to improve driving discipline? - It is all about Bangalore

Hi All,   Greetings to all. Mr. RaviKumar came up with a basic point. And even nice comments by Mr. Raja.   As of my thought, we should change the baseline attitude among people. Road Usage is "Not only our right but also our responsibilty' . The main problem in India is lack of discipline in our lifestyle. Not only in roads we show our indisciplined nature everywhere. I came to US for my MS 2 years back. I should say India is Best always what ever happens. Even today I feel the same but it will be wonderful if we can do behave as better Indians with social consciousness.   Here in US no one cross a signal or speed up too much than speed limits fear of fine. Pedestrains are considered very imp. Children and Old people will have high priority and even challenged people. Even if pedestrains (kids) run into road without seeing people will be careful enough stop and wait until they complete cross the road. I never such a thing in India. If we are waiting for a while to cross roads (pedestrains and even cars) people driving will stop and let us go. Its just a matter of minute. Someday we need the same minute for ourselves to cross the road. They show this sensual nature at right points.   We will not find any pits made by common man for any issue (neither for religious activities nor for political or other social gatherings). They protect roads as their responsibility. No one will throw trash may be even small bits of trash on roads or around. Even their pets shouldn't spoil the roads or neighbourhood. We can queue anywhere (if it is crowded). No one will try to push and pull. It appears so silly to hear. But all these make a big difference. Even in India i tried to carry the trash to some trash can. First I used keep that in mind not to throw on roads. But after a while it been a habit.   Here are some of my ideas to keep life better:   1. As Mr. Raja quoted example of slogan behind our vehicles is a really worthy idea. It will sensually educate people. 2. We can make boards of traffic alerts in office, pamplets at offices, regular email alerts for IT people.   3. Regular ads on paper and electronic media (without link with politics)   4. What ever may be reason we should disturb traffic or use roads for temple activities or political rallies, unnecessary rallies or social activities. If necessary use only walking track (pedestrain area) for such things. If its inevitable then better to use only one lane if its multiple lanes.   5. Never we should block opposite track.   Mainly govt should make certain imp roles for long term benefit.   They should not allow religious, political or social rallies or any such activities on roads blocking track.   Also we should not think a major accident or killing some one in accidents is a major crime. They better fine or imprison or even both and if necessary terminate license or keep a hold on license for a limited period if someone don't follow traffic rules. if we can't get it right with rigits lets get it right with rules and orders.   Wish to see a safe India. I wish everyone comments or suggestions in this issue and also implementation will be worthy aspect in this issue. Even I reuest our India vision associated groups to consider this also as critical issue and add such educational programs in their programs. Try to include traffic education also as a aspect in your regular events and programs. Spare 5 to 10 mins to play a video or presentation or basic lecture along with your other activities regularly. On and On with such events we can get this point to all around us.   Navyasree                                                          JAIHIND                                                  L.Navya Sree --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Raja Saravanan <rajasaravanan@ gmail.com> wrote: From: Raja Saravanan <rajasaravanan@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] How to improve driving discipline? - It is all about Bangalore To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:36 AM Hi Ravikumar, Good thoughts. I also have been having the same thoughts on how do we educate people. couple of weeks back I found something really good. I saw a car going before my car which had a nice sticker put at the back window. "I am a responsible motorist in Bangalore and I take a vow to follow all traffic rules... Do you?" Just someone had shared a thought loud. Any sensible person driving behind this car would follow rules and lane discipline. There is no one single thing that could solve the problem of traffic. 90% of the traffic problems are created by undisciplined driving. It just needs awareness of driving discipline to people.One of the most common mistakes I see people doing is if they see that the traffic has halted and no vehicles are coming in the opposite direction then they don't realize there a jam down the line which is getting cleared. They just drive on the empty road and block the opposite traffic and cause a big jam. The vehicle population in Bangalore has increased exponentially and everyone needs to understand that they no longer have the luxury of reaching office in 10 - 15 mins. It would take time. Every other person on the road also have the same level of urgency to reach. Just a little bit of patience would help. But the problem often happens is how can we tell people about it. It should be something like "I Believe in Bangalore Ad" which had hoardings all over the city. Which tells most common mistakes people make and tell how to avoid it. There is OOH LCD tv's placed in restaurants and many corporate offices. There could be ad clippings put here as well and people do see it. There may be more bright ideas as well. But this is definitely something worth attempting for and see if it makes a difference. Raja On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:42 PM, K Ravikumar <shakkalakababy@ yahoo.com> wrote: Dear All,  There are many major problems going on in our country, however I want to bring few problems, which can be resolved by all citizens easily and 90% of the bangalorians face this problem every working day without fail. This is my personal experience. I stay at Marathalli, Bangalore and I drive to my office at C V Raman Nagar everyday.  School children struggling to cross the road. It is like, they take 3 steps forward and 2 steps backward, after many attempts, they would cross the road. No one wants to stop their vehicle and allow the kids to cross the road. There are speed breakers, but that doesn't control anyone At Marathalli Junction, there is no signal stop for pedestrians to cross the road. Everytime, everyone needs to take a challenge to cross the road. When I see the old people are putting lots of efforts to cross the road and fear in them, I could not control myself. Most of the Traffic Jams are due to not following basic driving discipline and traffic rules. Bangalore has very bad infrastructure due to sudden growth of population and one of the main reason is IT professionals (including me), but most of the traffic jams are due to not following traffic rules and basic driving discipline. Many of us want to do something, but don't know how to contribute to improve the infrastructure. Everyone gets irritate and waste lots of time in Traffic, but many don't want to follow the traffic discipline and go where ever they get way.   You might have seen this problem all over India. How do we bring the basic discipline in everyone. What we young guys should do?. There are many movies and advertisements, but that don't help.   I see the same problems everyday and there is no one is to care or improve the situation. We do ask our self, who is the culprit for all these problems and why we can't have a peaceful life.   Is there anything we can do, that could teach everyone?. Do we need to record video of every traffic jam and root cause, then brodcast on every TV channel to bring more awareness to people.   Do we need to wait for govt to take action?. Or Do we need to live like this?   Regards K.Ravikumar Bangalore.

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