sir,
hats off for ur efforts ..when u are not interested in something and when u have no restrictions of doing it u wont attempt to do it.. i suppose this is what exactly happening in govt schools.as my previous replier had said it would be better to separate the fast learners from others.this will be a big boon to both categories.. fast learner will be free to learn and the teacher has an option to approach a different manner to the ones who are not interested.. in govt schools there will be almost 2 categories of students..
1..those who really want to study
2.those who come by compulsion from the parents or others.. these people just come schools for time pass..
so separating them will really help in bringing both people up.another point is that these people do not have vision about education and its essence .. thats why they lost the interest.. a special programme to these students on importance of learning and advancement in science and technologies (not in usual way of describing these orally but show them videos of chandrayan 1 , advancement in technology videos.. these videos are easily available on the net easily as u know)
this special motivation class should be in should be in such a way that the students should actually feel that in future they should be a part of this technology..
this special motivation class should be in should be in such a way that the students should actually feel that in future they should be a part of this technology..
i am sure with this motivation every thing will go fine..also motivate them about the future(ask them if the present situation continues what will happen,u will do only ur fathers job.think yourself.by studying well you can get a life of your wish.. like that)
sir i am an engineering student from ece dept.. in our nss camps i noticed the students are lacking in vision .. this is what preventing them from doing their best..
also little action of government makes even the good students feel bad.. the engineering colleges are increasing rapidly.. this leads to lot of unemployment in engineering and other fields like agricultural studies and other dept remains vacant.. so government should take steps to allot seats limited in all respect to have a stable society..
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Venkateswaran <venkivanaja@yahoo.com > wrote:
dear sri natarajan,
i am a retired professor in chemistry, from a govt. college. from my experience, i would like to tell u that it is the same in all govt. schools and colleges. a teacher, teaching a higher standard, always finds his/her ward lacking in proficiency wrt his/her earlier classes. in this forum v r expected to project only positive sides. so, what v need to do is to separate slow learners and teach them in a separate stream. also, there must b an urge in the student's mind to learn. v have to concentrate on those who respond and v must try to bring others round to our way. i wish u good luck in ur efforts. pl. remember v r working in a time where the central govt. is planning to abolish tenth standard public exams and there r people who support such a move. and v have human rights advocates who r against giving any punishments to the bad elements amongst the students. so, remember the words of gita, " do thy duty; fruit is not thy concern." i once again wish u success in ur efforts. remember that there will b at least one person who will b benefited by ur efforts. as time passes by, this number will grow and u will realise that u have done a great service to the down trodden.
prof. a.venkateswaran
thanjavur
camp: henley on thames
uk
--- In India_Vision_2020@yahoogroups , Natarajan Raman <natadreams@..com ..> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> As you all know, at Dream India, we have been conducting classes at a few
> corporation and government schools in Chennai. I am writing this email with
> a hope to find some solution to the problems we have in our weekend
> classes.The standard of the students [ 8th and 9th] is really poor and many
> of them find it difficult to identify alphabets and worst cannot read and
> write Tamil [ even after 10 years of Tamil] correctly.
>
> When I discussed the situation with one of the HM's [ I do not want to bring
> the name here ] I am close with, I got to know the following,
>
>
> - With due respects to ABL, the students fail to learn the letters. This
> hampers them a lot when they come to sixth standard. Example, they can say
> "apple" as soon as we show an apple, but if you write in Tamil or English as
> apple, they cannot read. Teachers at sixth and higher are forced to teach
> alphabets and letters from sixth standard. I also heard special instruction
> being given NOT to teach syllabus for one month or so but letters. But
> learning these at sixth really does not help them. They pick up slow and
> hence everything as a result suffers.
>
>
> - There is a unwritten rule that 85% MUST pass till 9th Standard. This
> has resulted in reduction of pass mark to 25 and NOT 35 as usual. Even then,
> only 30% of students actually score this 25. Teachers are forced to give 10
> to 15 marks as bonus and pass them. The result: everyone passes and there is
> no real difference between a hard worker and even without knowing to write
> their parents name they come to 8th and 9th.
>
>
> - Gone are the days when students had respect for teachers. These days
> Government rules have given more freedom to students and tried up hands of
> teaching staff. In one of the schools where a lady is a HM, it seems a
> student and father both came drunk and did not leave the school premises. A
> lady she is, she could not do anything and was at their mercy to leave the
> premises.
>
>
> - Students use cell phone, earn money by working in night, come drunk,
> break the table, bench etc and do all bad things which actually influences
> other good students too. As soon as they have some cash, they think they own
> the world.
>
>
> - Teachers feel really bad that their hands have been tied. They are not
> supposed to punish the children. The maximum they can do is ask students to
> run a few rounds in the ground. In the process, the student fakes fainting
> and creates a big fuss.
>
>
> - Parents participation is absolutely nil. In most of the families,
> situation is something like this - Father drinks, drinks and only drinks.
> Mother does some house hold work and runs the family. They assume kids are
> going to school. In a few cases, student took a color dress with him and
> changed dress to play with elders [ who failed in tenth already ] and return
> home exactly as if he comes from school. Only after a week, when teachers
> asked his mom to meet them through someone about his long absence, this was
> discovered.
>
>
> - How is the situation in rural areas? Is the situation there better,
> especially the respect to teaching staff from students? How is ABL doing
> there? Do they also face the same problems that are being faced by these
> teachers?
>
>
> We are trying to bring up the 30 - 40 kids we interact with and it is
> working, but what about the rest 200+ is the question we have. We are not
> full time workers and it hurts.
>
> I feel these are fundamental problems that needs to be addressed and simply
> passing students is really harming them than doing any good. There are many
> eminent leaders in this group and we would like to hear from you. A lot of
> our action2020 groups work on education and hence your thoughts and
> solutions would help us all. Looking forward to hearing a workable solution
> from you all.
>
> Thank you all.
>
> Regards,
> Natarajan
> Dream India
>
> "Hesitating to act because the whole vision might not be achieved, or
> because others do not yet share it, is an attitude that only hinders
> progress." - Mahatma
> http://di2020.blogspot. com/
>
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