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Sunday, November 30, 2008

Re: [India_Vision_2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers!

Dear All India Vision 2020 members.
 
I am moved by the opinions I am reading since last two days. Just blaming politicians is the solution ?? If politicians are blamed like what I am seeing on media, no good person will ever join politics. I am asking the filmstars (ofcourse retired and having no other work)) , the so called intellectuals , and all who have come out (only on PCs) that are they using their voting right all the time religiously ?? First go and vote and don't just enjoy Holiday on election day. How many times they have interfered if a citizen is  harassed or facing injustice either by authorities or any anti social elements. How many times they stopped to help injured person in an accident or riots ? How many times they have helped the needy under privileged members of our society ? (I am not talking of just donations!) & THEN & THEN let us blame others.  Many are asking where were the politicians in our hour of need. But is it not better on part  of them to not to come out during such major terrorist attack and let the services do their work ? (good that Raj Thakre and his MNS or Shivsena workers have not come out and started riots, we should be thankful to them) Narendra Modi is criticized  for his visit & his statements. I agree he should have not visited and made any statements BUT then on one hand we criticize who try to come out and their move are judged as political stunt even if his/her  intention are genuine and on the other hand we blame that where are our leaders !! Are we expecting them to take AK 47 in hands and go to fight terrorists ? and if any leader really want to do that, will he be allowed ?
 
We should clarify (we, the writers on this blog at least) what we need ? What our leaders should do in such situation ? What we expect ? Instead we are writing for core reform (which are impractical or will take long time) Somebody is talking of intervention of armed forces in decision making !! How is it possible ? There was a political party launched by iitians. What happened to that?
 
Let us India Vision Group form a political party . Is it possible. ? No. So we have to select the less evils. Nothing is going to happen, Everything will go on like this till there prevailed the wisdom among mankind.
 
I have written this out of frustration and I request India Vision Group to continue their valuable suggestions. Sometime, somebody will take over.
 
 
Jai Hind !
 
Jiten Desai
 
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--- On Sat, 11/29/08, neethu ganesh <neethuganesh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: neethu ganesh <neethuganesh@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers!
To: India_Vision_2020@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 7:59 PM

nothing can defeat us.  standing united and without any fear, we will fight against the challenges untill out last breath.  the final victory is ours. always proud to be an indian.   we salute india, out motherland. condemn all kind of terrorism... ....

--- On Sat, 29/11/08, hemant phadnis <hemant_phadnis2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: hemant phadnis <hemant_phadnis2000@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers!
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 2:10 PM

Dear Murlikrishnanji and Shaurya Ji,
 
Our politicians are nothing more than "Lard On Pig" They just become pumpkin on the tax payers money. Our Military Officials needs to be intervened into political affairs for the gross decisions. Leaders are appreciated on their policies, strategies where generations are getting benefited for easyness in a uncertain life.

Where were all our local politicians in this period in this terror incident?How cum their voice stopped suddenly? Or they are also become dumstruck of this incident ? Democracy is difinitely the ornament of our country.
 
I would suggest, stand all politician from all developed and developing countries in line and look at them. In most of the countries [except India] after 4 years, at the most after 8 years, they retire. Their age is also a matter and factor to serve the countries.Ours are batteling elections after elections and still glued those chairs as they are the archives of this country.
 
Until we make these politicians answerable to public in every fortnight, and a intellectual team to be at the disposal of the question to them. Let us push forward these exercise. In any case politicians are having ample time and they love to speak on camera. In this exercise ,they will speak only on actions taken and cronology of question will be monitored by intellectual team.
 
 
Regards,
 
Hemant Phadnis
Dubai
 

--- On Sat, 29/11/08, Shaurya Shah <shaurya_munich@ yahoo.co. in> wrote:

From: Shaurya Shah <shaurya_munich@ yahoo.co. in>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers!
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 11:41 AM

Dear Muralikrishnan ji,
 
What you have expressed is right and I think we all patriots have same feeling....
A few days back our Moderator Srinivasan ji had voiced about effectiveness of leadership of our pre-independence Political Heroes... That' s a history now..
 
Today, despite our country's growth (due to vast patriotic inputs), we are facing problems in many walks of life as our politics has reached to its nadir.. There is a sordid amalgam of lack of patriotism, lack of courage, lack of honesty and lack of character in our politicians. . Leading our country to corruption, divisions, insecurity, injustice and perhaps insolvency.. . .
 
> Can't we have 2 party system of democracy (as in USA)? [To stop horse trading and having consistent & decisive governance].
 
> Can't we, the countrymen have  RIGHT to select members of these parties first than just to elect them? [At present we are only electing between choices... say we are voting for XYZ party but we don't really like its candidate who we know is a 'Don' but we have no other option... so if we can have a bunch of selected people FIRST in both the parties (who are suppose to be the MP or MLA), we can rest assured of good polity].
 
We can still work on Gandhi's Way and Sardar's Visions... for betterment of our generations to come...
 
Jai Hind,
 
Shaurya Shah

--- On Sat, 29/11/08, Sunderraj Muralikrishnan <muralikrishnans@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Sunderraj Muralikrishnan <muralikrishnans@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [India_Vision_ 2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers! Some more concerns on our TV media!!
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, 29 November, 2008, 1:09 PM

Dear Patriots,
 
Since July'05, about 20 such terrorist attacks have been enacted by terrorists on our soil and after every attack , our cowardly leaders keep promising that this menace will be eradicated ! WHAT A SHAME ! Terrorists seem to be more united and successful than our hypocritical politicians !?
 
As long as our politicians do not place our NATIONAL INTEREST  above their selfish / destructive interests , WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE SUCH TERRORIST ATTACKS. This is not my wish , but , unfortunately, this is the plain truth .
 
Yes, WE SALUTE the patriotism of our brave soldiers who have sacrificed their lives in the service of our Motherland. But , this salute , their patriotism and the sacrifice of our freedom fighters WILL GO WASTE if we do not ACT.  It is not enough just to watch and sympathise. WE NEED TO ACT , TO CHANGE OUR PEOPLE'S MINDS AND TO CHANGE OUR LEADERSHIP.
 
WE NEED TO DEVELOPE AN ACTION PLAN TO COMPLETELY REFORM OUR SOCIAL AND POLITICAL SYSTEM .

All the Patriots of our Nation long for a fundamental change in our political and social system .. For many decades our political parties and leaders have proved beyond doubt that they will not make this change because of UTTER  SELFISHNESS . THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY TRANSFORMED OUR COUNTRY INTO A JUNGLE !  So, no point in trusting them anymore .
 
We , the true patriots of this country , should come forward and take this responsibility to transform India . WE ONLY CAN & SHOULD MAKE THIS CHANGE . The CHANGE is NOT going to drop from the heaven. We must work hard to make this change happen.

If we do not act, our grand children and great grand children will inherit only a chaotic , disintegrated JUNGLE to live in . This will be the worst INJUSTICE to our future generations. 
 
If we start sowing the seeds of CHANGE today, I believe, we will definitely see a transformed India within our lifetime. It will take a long time in such a big country, but it is definitely achievable IF WE PUT OUR HEARTS AND MINDS TOGETHER . 
 
So, shall we as a group work together and DEVELOPE AN ACTION PLAN. Is it possible in this forum ? I request the moderator to kindly advise on this suggestion.
 
Yours sincerely,
S.Muralikrishnan
____________ __
 
 

--- On Sat, 11/29/08, veera mani <siga1966@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: veera mani <siga1966@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers!
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:06 AM

Dear Sir,
 
I think the law to treat the terrorism in our country needs to be strengthened and the forces involved to counter attack the terrorism should be saluted.
This is the lesson to be learnt and be more vigilant to tight the entry/exit points to the cities.
Can we plan for a minute of mourning thru this forum for those braviers ended their life.
 
Reagrds,
Siga 

From: Krishnamurthy T.S.. <krishnamurthy. ts@gmail. com>
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Friday, 28 November, 2008 10:47:14 PM
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] Let us salute the brave soldiers!

I entirely agree.

But I have a question which is nagging me.How is it that 12 or 20
terrorists hold the entire city/nation to ransom.Even assuming they
had terrible ammunition,dont we have enough people -armed people to
disarm these antisocial animals?Israel can teach lessons.How did they
save almost everyone except one or two of those kidnapped & hijacked
passengers at Entebbe?The simple point is we keep our borders porous
on the coast & on the northeast.We have money to distribute
gifts/subsidies but no keenness to secure our borders.The primnary
duty of govt is provide security,food, clothing education &
healthcare.All parties have failed to provide but have time/money for
unwanted items because of petty politics.

Only God can help this nation!

Best wishes
TSK

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Prime Point Srinivasan
<prpoint@gmail. com> wrote:
> dear friends
>
> Mumbai terrorist attack is coming to end. At this moment of my writing this
> post, official confirmation of death is yet to be received. Few brave
> soldiers, including senior officials of Mumbai have sacrificed their life
> for the Nation. Nearly 100 plus commandos, braving their life, faced the
> well trained and motivated terrorists for more than two days. They have
> done their job, in the presence of hundreds of cameras meticulously. They
> brought glory to the Indian Army and to the country. We salute them for
> their timely job at the time of National crisis.
>
> After taking possession of Nariman Bhavan, these bravemen, boarded their
> Military Van and left the place, amidst the cheeres of the people around.
> This was shown in all channels. If anyone had observed closely, they all
> left without any expression on their faces, with a great satisfaction of
> having done their job to the Nation. We may not remember the faces of
> these 'unsung heroes', but we remember their brave act.
>
>
> srinivasan
> prime point
> 94440 50273
>
>
>
>
>
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