To realise the developed India by 2020

Tuesday, December 2, 2008

[India_Vision_2020] Compulsary Military Training, not Military Rule that India needs today.

Dear All,
 
What happened to you people. Military rule ?? No way. Just study the situation in the countries having Military rule. Just know the conditions of the people there. Instead we should be proud of our great Democracy.  There are many ways of fighting terrorism. Actually we Indians are the part of a passive society. How many of us will stop a person smoking in public ?? Our tolerance limit is unlimited and that is the root cause of many of our problems. We need to change ourselves.Why all the time we play defensive ? (cricket). We have to change the approach like that  of Rahul Dravid who was afraid of follow on the opposition. Shashi Tharur once related this with our Indian defensive mentality. And how right he was !  We started winning once Dhoni changed the style, changed the mind set and the result he got did the balance work. We must learn to demand , we must learn to protect our rights  and we must learn to fight.
 
Instead of military rule we must make the military training compulsory for our youths like many other countries. Military training imparts discipline, it imparts patriotism.Most of us are patriots but again our patriotism is inactive, it wakes up only when something happens like Kargil or Mumbai attacks. Isn't the patriotism an every day affair ? Isn't it a part of one's character ?
 
Jai Hind
 
Jiten Desai

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, manoj dey <manojdey@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: manoj dey <manojdey@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
To: India_Vision_2020@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:27 PM

Yes I agree, but Military rule efinitely will not bea solution, with military rule, absolute power shall go to Hon. Pratibha Patile, measure her integrity with Lottery scams, agian she will be anothe puppet of Sonia & Msrs company.
Again our armed forces chief of staff  know all about bofors etc and if you happen to know someone who is a contractor with deense supplies or supplier you can measure integrity of armed forces abolute power to any one in the country shall  make us more vulnerable.
  A consensus from peope demanding efficient legal system and teachng lessons to alll these terrorist organization is must and if some of our enemy countries try o protect the terrorist outfits , we shall not hesitate to go further.
Its time to act we are and make a statement that we are peace lovers but not cowards!
Jai Hind
Manoj

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, rajeev ranjan <niki3584@gmail. com> wrote:
From: rajeev ranjan <niki3584@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:58 AM

no yaar its not like that saying is easy but doing is difficult be
practical we can do one where we are living just keep a check on
everything if few persons do such things then automatically problems
will out of country becoz it is not bombay problem it is the problem
of everyplace if this will occur tomorrow in chennai then it will
become problem of chennai so thing globally work locally and regarding
terrorist there is need of death punishment just make them wobble out
every thing they know whts are there palns and who and where is the
mastermind

On 12/2/08, manoj dey <manojdey@yahoo. com> wrote:
> My Dear contrymen and countrywomen,
> Its good to be sentimental and be frustrated and ask for military rule.
> I strongly agree we need a stronger government with strict rules and
> appropriate implementation of securty measures for home and defense, there
> is no doubt on this , but please think rationally and identify who will have
> all the executive powers in a ilitary rule, Preident of india, who is not
> elected by people of India but appointed by our parasite elects, with whom
> we are frustrated now!, and irony is people do not elect the excutive head
> of the nation directly.
> In democracy abilty to elect and sen or nominees to the governing bodies
> is the ultimate power people can have and we as people shall not give up
> and shed ou democrtic rights with a reliance on a president electe by the
> very people we are frustrated with, chief of armed foces we hardly know
> about!
> Hope is the last thing one shall loose, its essence and preamble to the
> human living, While I discard the provision of Presidents rule (So called
> military rule) , I don't have constructive silution right away.
> But I feel with so many true sons and Daughters of Bharat Mata on thi sforum
> we can carve out some creative solution, we can do it but as we are looking
> for a solution for 1100 Million people, it must not be easy, lets
> concentrate and debate more, may be we can arrive at some better conclusion.
> Vande Mataram,
> Jai Hind,
> Manoj
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> --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Neha Innanje <nehainnanje@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Neha Innanje <nehainnanje@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in
> Custody?
> To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:13 AM
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> I strongly support Srikanth.I also believe that Military rule must be
> enforced in India for a period of time sufficient for the army to wipe out
> terrorists from India.They must train children in such a way so that they
> don't think of becoming a terrorist.The structure of society should undergo
> a change. The feeling of hatred/revenge must be eliminated.The present
> politicians who are power greedy and who think of filling thier own pockets
> but not of the welfare of the country must be strictly dealt with.Gen X must
> come forward to lead India.Though it will take a long time to achieve this
> goal,there is no better time than now to start as something is surely better
> than nothing.As Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam once said,when billions of brains come
> together what can stop India from Developing into an Ideal Country?
> All the youth should join hands to realise this dream and the young must
> cherish this dream.Only then will terrorism/any other problem will get
> resolved.
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> We have already seen the unity of Indians whenever we are in a crisis.Why
> can't we stay united all the time?Why do we come together only when we face
> a danger from the outsiders?Why do we fight among ourselves for trivial
> matters like kids fighting over a sweet
> when it only tastes good but really harms us when it is in excess?
> True Indians must ponder over these questions and get to the root of these
> situations.Then India will truly become a great country.
> JAI HIND
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> Neha
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> --- On Tue, 12/2/08, sri kanth <evsrikanth@ gmail. com> wrote:
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> From: sri kanth <evsrikanth@ gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in
> Custody?
> To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:36 AM
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> Excellent Views, ideas,& suggestions. Please note the fact that the cancer
> here is "Global Terrorism" sponsored, encouraged by few unknown/known ?
> entities of some governments which live far away from Democracy/Freedom. The
> problem is the ideology itself. A country/ Nation cannot be formed on the
> basis of religious terms & conditions. I agree with a fellow friends
> suggestion that Love,Humanity should be propogated among all the Nations
> around the world.
> All Human beings are one whether we look green , white, black or yellow, our
> religion/Caste is one "Human"...
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> What could be done to stop this happening around the world?
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> All the Nations facing the threat today or not should come together and a
> well funded "Force to Fight Terrorism" should be formed. Communication/
> Interaction/ Intelligence should be shared among all Nations. The idealogy
> of Terrorism should be eradicated from the gross root level.To do this
> International rules should be established( may be UN could help) .Serious
> sanctions need to be put on the nations encouraging terrorism or ignoring
> operations of Terror groups on their soil.
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> The terror groups are well funded organisations. Where is this money coming
> from? The whole Family/Environment is responsible for the acts of an
> individual. They might be ready to kill themselves but if his parents or
> loved ones are punished for his acts he might think twice before committing
> an act. So the point here is new laws should be put in place . INDIAN
> CONSTITUTION SHOULD BE REVAMPED.
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> Even though Indian intelligency officials got a hint from the CIA, USA that
> a possible threat could be from sea route and targeting star hotels why did
> we fail to protect ourselves. This is a very serious issue. Somebody sitting
> in New Delhi does not pass this message down to administration/ Mumbai just
> because he needs to get his toilet cleaned. First of all , these people who
> receive this kind of vital information and fail to circulate should be
> punished. He is one way or the other responsible.
> This is only a simple example , but why are we failing to co-ordinate just
> because even if you fail to do so nothing happens to you.
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> This is happening very often at different places in our country. Though we
> are one of the fastest growing country in the world why are we failing to
> protect ourselves ?
> Can the government promise to people that this was the last attack on Indian
> soil?
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> Serious rules globally need to be implemented. ..
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> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Jeganathan Kumaresan <jk2107@gmail. com>
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> Dears,
> I strongly recommond and accept the suggestion of Divya. I have read in
> Magic of Thinking Big that, Criminal activities shall be identified in the
> buds and can be eliminiated from the minds.
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> So we identify and change them. It is possible and We can do it.
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> Regards
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> J Kumaresan
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> 2008/12/1 divya jethwa <divyajethwa@ gmail.com>
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> there are many cruel ways to teach them a lesson,
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> but we need to search the way which can clean the dust from the depth of
> their mind,
> from the depth of their heart, so that they can also start loving the human
> beings beyond the walls of religions.
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> we need to derstroy the Terrorism, not the Terrorist.
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> the terrorist's themselves living in the terror, they feel insecure thats
> why they do such things.
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> if it is possible to make a person terrorist so it cant be impossible to
> make a terrorist a human with humanity.
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> we have no other option because they are already trained for the worst, the
> cruel techniques wont work on them else it will make them proud, and they
> will be a motivating example for rest of the terrorists, the rest of the
> terrorist will think of the revenge.
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> i'will suggest you to watch the movie"Black & White".
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> Jai Hind!
> Divya Jethwa
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> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Shaurya Shah <shaurya_munich@ yahoo.co.
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> Please ask your hearts, "What should be done to the terrorists who are in
> custody at Ahmedabad?"
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> Jai Hind,
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> Shaurya Shah
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akki(rajeev ranjan)


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