Hi all, Neha Innanje's views that Army should take over atleast for some period to stabilise the elements, is a thought arising out of disgust. One should not forget the struggle Pakistan had to take up to restore Democracy from the clutches of the Army. Army is a Force and Democracy is an intellect. In a democracy, there are certain anamolies that could be addressed by all of us. Citizens of Chennai and Citizens of Mumbai have given their solidarity to eradicate terrorism. Standing against terrorism is not only connecting one hand with another by forming a human chain. By this we should build up a movement of stabilising the democracy that we are proud of. All Politicians are not bad. But no party is (can be) professionally managed. What should be our goal?The solidarity should be converted into a sentiment and cemented as an EKTA PARTY. This ekta unit could blossom into a POLITICAL PARTY ALL OVER INDIA, without any affiliation to Regional factors, Religious factors and Caste Factors. Take membership from the working/not working indiscriminately with the help of the Press and Media, if they really want to bring about a paradigm shift. At the same time, the media should not forget that there should be a display of such a paradigm shift in their functioning and their approach towards the stories that they speak of/write about. FORM A PARTY and select a suitable CEO TO THE PARTY. Register primary memberships on the Internet with their complete identity under a UNIQUE ID NUMBER. this party should fight elections. Prior to this, members of this party should act like a WHISTLE BLOWER with basic commitments for a pledge : Memberships will be registered with a signed pledge (electronically or otherwise) 1) I wont talk caste 2) I will go on merit 3) I will not give or take bribe even if my work suffers 4) I will expose every unlawful activity in my domain 5) I will not be a part of any unlawful activity-known and unknown 6) I will respect the Government of the people and the laws made by our Seniors 7) I will diligently carry out official or personal responsibilities 8) I am accountable every week for my lapses 9) I will send my children above 16 years for a Compulsory Army/BSF Service 10) I will expose black money generation and I will not be a part of any under the table transactions. 11) I will pay Tax as per my real income 12) I will expose those tax evaders/money launderers/ 13) I will identify local terrorists(DADAs and underground functionaries) to bring them to books 14) I will devote 30% of my free time to the Society I live in for development and renaissance 15) I will advocate women empowerment and practise the same starting from my home 16) I will support Indian goods and Indian Intellectual Products for my profession/service(BE INDIAN AND USE INDIAN THOUGHTS AND GOODS) 17) I will use Public transport for my personal use 18) I will not celebrate my birthday parties; instead, I will feed the destitutes and less fortunate ones 19) I will support RIGHT TO INFORMATION in any form from any unit and spread the use of the same. 20) One month's salary, I shall donate to the NATIONAL PEACE FOUNDATION Caste votes to the INDIA EKTA PARTY. Friends, How about thinking in these lines and awake all the sensible citizens of India, irrespective of their caste, colour or creed? with regards, NC (N.CHANDRASEKHARAN) (INNANJE) MAPUSA GOA "BEHIND EVERY WORK THERE IS A HUMAN ELEMENT" "LENS"
--- On Wed, 3/12/08, Chandrashekhar More <cp_more@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Chandrashekhar More <cp_more@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
To: India_Vision_2020@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008, 9:41 AM
| Hi Meera, I oppose your view on taking extreme measure for not casting votes based on the incompetant candidates. I think not casting votes will cause more political instability in the country and provide playground for anti-social activities. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." This JFK's Quotes is powerful. We should continue to participate directly and indirectly in building the nation as we are doing today. Looking at the action taken by government recently, we have a self correcting ability. The largest democracy have shown that we can react with our heads cooled and work towards bringing justice,to the people.This is very powerful message. So, Do vote and keep Polititians butts when they become out of control. -C.P.More ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____ Chandrashekhar P. More ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ____
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Meera Ramakrishnan <meerhar@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
From: Meera Ramakrishnan <meerhar@yahoo. co.in>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:55 PM
Dear Friends,
I strongly support manoj ji. Implementin a military rule would rather be like killing our ways to live. Military rule at the outset may seem to be the best choice to fight against terror. However, people who have survived the earlier emergency period knows the ups and downs of it better than me. Hope the forum has the survivors of the emergency period.
Ideally, the solution is now with "WE THE PEOPLE". let us wake up at this terror, and decide on our next steps. I strongly believe in certain principles of Gandhi. If you can change, your community will change, if the community changes, city gets influenced. As it goes on, the entire message reaches the 1100 million people across the country.
Stop casting votes, if there is no right candidate. Infact, we PR people could run an offline campaign across our cities. Just imagine, it is the people like us who use this forum have so much knowledge about this. Just think of a labour somewhere in remote part of the state/country. Do you think he/she is aware of what happened to Mumbai. I am not definitely not blaming them, rather blaming us.
And i have no words to describe the media's performance. Since there were some good though certain things went beyond boundary line.
regards,
Meera.R
From: manoj dey <manojdey@yahoo. com>
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008 7:21:15 PM
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
| My Dear contrymen and countrywomen, Its good to be sentimental and be frustrated and ask for military rule. I strongly agree we need a stronger government with strict rules and appropriate implementation of securty measures for home and defense, there is no doubt on this , but please think rationally and identify who will have all the executive powers in a ilitary rule, Preident of india, who is not elected by people of India but appointed by our parasite elects, with whom we are frustrated now!, and irony is people do not elect the excutive head of the nation directly. In democracy abilty to elect and sen or nominees to the governing bodies is the ultimate power people can have and we as people shall not give up and shed ou democrtic rights with a reliance on a president electe by the very people we are frustrated with, chief of armed foces we hardly know about! Hope is the last thing one shall loose, its essence and preamble to the human living, While I discard the provision of Presidents rule (So called military rule) , I don't have constructive silution right away. But I feel with so many true sons and Daughters of Bharat Mata on thi sforum we can carve out some creative solution, we can do it but as we are looking for a solution for 1100 Million people, it must not be easy, lets concentrate and debate more, may be we can arrive at some better conclusion. Vande Mataram, Jai Hind, Manoj
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Neha Innanje <nehainnanje@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Neha Innanje <nehainnanje@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:13 AM
| I strongly support Srikanth.I also believe that Military rule must be enforced in India for a period of time sufficient for the army to wipe out terrorists from India.They must train children in such a way so that they don't think of becoming a terrorist.The structure of society should undergo a change. The feeling of hatred/revenge must be eliminated.The present politicians who are power greedy and who think of filling thier own pockets but not of the welfare of the country must be strictly dealt with.Gen X must come forward to lead India.Though it will take a long time to achieve this goal,there is no better time than now to start as something is surely better than nothing.As Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam once said,when billions of brains come together what can stop India from Developing into an Ideal Country? All the youth should join hands to realise this dream and the young must cherish this dream.Only then will terrorism/any other problem will get resolved. We have already seen the unity of Indians whenever we are in a crisis.Why can't we stay united all the time?Why do we come together only when we face a danger from the outsiders?Why do we fight among ourselves for trivial matters like kids fighting over a sweet when it only tastes good but really harms us when it is in excess? True Indians must ponder over these questions and get to the root of these situations.Then India will truly become a great country. JAI HIND
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--- On Tue, 12/2/08, sri kanth <evsrikanth@gmail. com> wrote:
From: sri kanth <evsrikanth@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [India_Vision_ 2020] What should be done to terrorists in Custody?
To: India_Vision_ 2020@yahoogroups .com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:36 AM
Friends, Excellent Views, ideas,& suggestions. Please note the fact that the cancer here is "Global Terrorism" sponsored, encouraged by few unknown/known ? entities of some governments which live far away from Democracy/Freedom. The problem is the ideology itself. A country/ Nation cannot be formed on the basis of religious terms & conditions. I agree with a fellow friends suggestion that Love,Humanity should be propogated among all the Nations around the world. All Human beings are one whether we look green , white, black or yellow, our religion/Caste is one "Human"... What could be done to stop this happening around the world? All the Nations facing the threat today or not should come together and a well funded "Force to Fight Terrorism" should be formed. Communication/ Interaction/ Intelligence should be shared among all Nations. The idealogy of Terrorism should be eradicated from the gross root level.To do this International rules should be established( may be UN could help) .Serious sanctions need to be put on the nations encouraging terrorism or ignoring operations of Terror groups on their soil. The terror groups are well funded organisations. Where is this money coming from? The whole Family/Environment is responsible for the acts of an individual. They might be ready to kill themselves but if his parents or loved ones are punished for his acts he might think twice before committing an act. So the point here is new laws should be put in place . INDIAN CONSTITUTION SHOULD BE REVAMPED. Even though Indian intelligency officials got a hint from the CIA, USA that a possible threat could be from sea route and targeting star hotels why did we fail to protect ourselves. This is a very serious issue. Somebody sitting in New Delhi does not pass this message down to administration/ Mumbai just because he needs to get his toilet cleaned. First of all , these people who receive this kind of vital information and fail to circulate should be punished. He is one way or the other responsible. This is only a simple example , but why are we failing to co-ordinate just because even if you fail to do so nothing happens to you. This is happening very often at different places in our country. Though we are one of the fastest growing country in the world why are we failing to protect ourselves ? Can the government promise to people that this was the last attack on Indian soil? Serious rules globally need to be implemented. ..
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Jeganathan Kumaresan <jk2107@gmail. com> wrote: Dears, I strongly recommond and accept the suggestion of Divya. I have read in Magic of Thinking Big that, Criminal activities shall be identified in the buds and can be eliminiated from the minds. So we identify and change them. It is possible and We can do it. Regards J Kumaresan
2008/12/1 divya jethwa <divyajethwa@ gmail.com> there are many cruel ways to teach them a lesson, but we need to search the way which can clean the dust from the depth of their mind, from the depth of their heart, so that they can also start loving the human beings beyond the walls of religions. we need to derstroy the Terrorism, not the Terrorist. the terrorist's themselves living in the terror, they feel insecure thats why they do such things. if it is possible to make a person terrorist so it cant be impossible to make a terrorist a human with humanity. we have no other option because they are already trained for the worst, the cruel techniques wont work on them else it will make them proud, and they will be a motivating example for rest of the terrorists, the rest of the terrorist will think of the revenge. i'will suggest you to watch the movie"Black & White". Jai Hind!
Divya Jethwa
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Shaurya Shah <shaurya_munich@ yahoo.co. in> wrote: | Dear All, Please ask your hearts, "What should be done to the terrorists who are in custody at Ahmedabad?" Jai Hind, Shaurya Shah | | |
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